中共霹靂15超長程飛彈 威脅預警機
(中時電子報)大陸軍事網路流傳的超巨大空對空飛彈，與殲16戰機比較，粗估飛彈長度超過5公尺。(圖/大眾科學)
近日大陸軍事論壇揭露一張不尋常的戰機起飛照，一架中共製殲16(大陸版Su-30)搭載一枚超巨大的空對空飛彈。大陸媒體稱在11月時，一架殲16試射一枚霹靂15長程空對空飛彈並命中標靶，可能就是照片所顯示的這枚。
「流星」放閃 世界最殺飛彈瑞典服役
據大眾科學網(Popular Science)介紹，這枚飛彈只有四個尾翼，沒有其他運動控制面，可見追求的是極高速獵殺。與戰機的比較後，推斷飛彈大小可能約570公分長、33公分寛，與俄國現役的長程空對空飛彈R-37(長420公分、寬38公分)相比，來的還要更長，但顯得比較瘦。 大眾科學網稱它為「非常遠距空對空飛彈」(VLRAAM)，而大陸媒體則推測它的型號名為霹靂15。
霹靂15大的出奇，可能殲20的彈艙都容納不了。不過對於超長程飛彈而言，因為離目標甚遠，已不需特別在乎匿蹤性。(圖/網路)
R-37的官方公布射程為410公里，以此推斷霹靂15(暫稱)也不會小於這個數字。美國現役的AIM-120射程120公里，遠小於霹靂15。而且霹靂15強大的火箭發動機，可以可以將它推進到6馬赫的高速度，這將大幅縮短反應時間，如果它所獵殺的是預警機、運輸機這類的大型目標，幾乎可說是無法逃脫。
目前推測，霹靂15型是由殲20這類搭載有主動相陣雷達(AESA)的戰機所搭載，藉由相陣雷達的初期引導，到離目標30公里後，再切換為飛彈追蹤，飛彈尋標器可能有多種導引，除了雷達索敵以外，還附有紅外/光電導引做為備份。由於紅外/光電導引階段，飛彈不會釋放任何訊號，因此更難查覺。
霹靂15型若問世，將會帶給週邊國家巨大的空防壓力，比如台灣。400公里以上的射程已非台灣海峽(均寛150公里)所能隔離。同樣的日本、南韓也受其威脅。大眾科學稱，VLRAAM不只是一個巨大的導彈，而是對未來的空戰環境提出一項新問題。
去找大眾科學網（Popular Science）的原文發現另一張圖片：距離標記為三百公里以上，但使用的可是超燃沖壓發動機（Scramjet）{:46:}
導彈採用雙模式複合導引系統，中段為GPS + INS + 數據鏈修正，還有偵查衛星輔助，解決遠程攻擊時機載雷達可能難以捕捉目標或被目標偵查到雷達鎖定而逃脫的問題，是以體系的優勢去造成一面倒的戰術優勢的例子 :lol
...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div><div></div> 射程超過 400公里,飛機的AESA能夠偵查到這麼遠的目標嗎?
是否是靠地面雷達導引,飛機只是個載台.
科技真是可怕,現在飛彈一下子就是400公里起跳,可能還沒出家門就被打下來,
真可怕. 以中國吹噓的能力，想必日後定能造出射程800km的飛彈，殲20連台軍的f16v都贏不了，面對現實吧!! firebold 發表於 2016-11-24 02:18 PM static/image/common/back.gif
以中國吹噓的能力，想必日後定能造出射程800km的飛彈，殲20連台軍的f16v都贏不了，面對現實吧!! ...
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"美為台灣研制的F16V戰機首飛號稱超越殲10B"...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div> 有雄風，不怕阿共導彈啦<br><br><br><br><br><div></div> 本帖最後由 xeno-2007 於 2016-11-24 03:14 PM 編輯
CHINA IS TESTING A NEW LONG-RANGE, AIR-TO-AIR MISSILE THAT COULD THWART U.S. PLANS FOR AIR WARFARE
(Popular Science By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer)
In November 2016, a Chinese J-16 strike fighter test-fired a gigantic hypersonic missile, successfully destroying the target drone at a very long range.
Looking at takeoff photos, we estimate the missile is about 28 percent of the length of the J-16, which measures 22 meters (about 72 feet). The puts the missile at about 19 feet, and roughly 13 inches in diameter. The missile appears to have four tailfins. Reports are that the size would put into the category of a very long range air to air missile (VLRAAM) with ranges exceeding 300 km (roughly 186 miles), likely max out between 250 and 310 miles. (As a point of comparison, the smaller 13.8-foot, 15-inch-diameter Russian R-37 missile has a 249-mile range).
This is a big deal: this missile would easily outrange any American (or other NATO) air-to-air missile. Additionally, the VLRAAM's powerful rocket engine will push it to Mach 6 speeds, which will increase the no escape zone (NEZ), that is the area where a target cannot outrun the missile, against even supersonic targets like stealth fighters.
The new, larger missile's added value is not just in range. Another key feature: its large active electronically scanned (AESA) radar, which is used in the terminal phase of flight to lock onto the target. The AESA radar's large size—about 300-400% larger than that of most long range air-to-air missiles—and digital adaptability makes it highly effective against distant and stealthy targets, and resilient against electronic countermeasures like jamming and spoofing.
The VLRAAM's backup sensor is a infrared/electro-optical seeker that can identify and hone in on high-value targets like aerial tankers and airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) radar aircraft. The VLRAAM also uses lateral thrusters built into the rear for improving its terminal phase maneuverability when engaging agile targets like fighters.
Interestingly, the ability to glide may be a key feature as well. A 2016 research paper by Zhang Hongyuan, Zheng Yuejing, and Shi Xiaorong of Beijing Institute of Control and Electronics Technology linked to the VLRAAM development suggests that the midcourse portion of the VLRAAM's flight will occur at altitudes above 30 km (about 18.6 miles). Flying at such low pressure, low drag high altitudes would allow the VLRAAM to extend its range (similar to hypersonic gliders). The high altitude also makes it difficult for enemy aircraft and air defenses to shoot it down midflight. Finally, high altitude flight means that the VLRAAM would have a high angle of attack against lower flying targets, which reduces the response time for enemy evasive action.
Another researched VLRAAM function is datalinking; the papers called for the VLRAAM to be embedded within a highly integrated combat networks. It is envisioned as just part of a larger wave of networked solutions aggregated through multiple Chinese systems. For example, a J-20 stealth fighter wouldn't mount the missile (the VLRAAM is too large to fit in the J-20's weapons bay), but could use its low observable features to fly relatively close in order to detect enemy assets like AEW&C aircraft (which are vital to gather battlespace data for manned and unmanned assets, but subsonic in speed and less able to evade missiles). Then before breaking off contact, the J-20 would signal a J-16 400 km (249 miles) away (outside the range of most air to air missiles) providing it the data needed to launch the VLRAAM at the target. This would offer China a longer range version of present U.S. tactics that involve using the fifth generation F-22 as a sensor for 4th generation fighters as the "shooters."
The gains in range and speed of the VLRAAM pose another significant risk to the concepts of the U.S. military's "Third Offset." U.S. operations are highly dependent on assets like aerial tankers, dedicated electronic warfare aircraft, and AEW&C. For example, without aerial tankers, the relatively short range of the F-35s would become even more of a liability in long range operations in the South China Seas and Taiwan Straits. Similarly, without AEW&C aircraft, F-22s would have to use onboard radars more, raising their risk of detection. Even for stealthy tanker platforms like the planned MQ-25 Stingray drone and proposed KC-Z tanker will be vulnerable to VLRAAMs if detected by emerging dedicated anti-stealth systems such as the Divine Eagle drone and Yuanmeng airship.
By pushing the Chinese air defense threat bubble hundreds of miles out further, they also offer to turn the long range tables on the putative U.S. "Arsenal" Plane concept, a Pentagon plan to launch missiles from non-stealthy planes from afar. In sum, VLRAAM is not just a big missile, but a potential big deal for the future of air warfare.
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以中國吹噓的能力，想必日後定能造出射程800km的飛彈，殲20連台軍的f16v都贏不了，面對現實吧!! ...
你不要說外行話的啦
若 F-16V 能勝過 J-20
那太陽就從西方出來的啦 firebold 發表於 2016-11-24 02:18 PM static/image/common/back.gif
以中國吹噓的能力，想必日後定能造出射程800km的飛彈，殲20連台軍的f16v都贏不了，面對現實吧!! ...
以閣下的吹噓功夫...何愁國軍戰敗 如果真的屬實
所有亞洲在中國週邊國家的軍事力量恐怕都無法抵擋吧 很好笑，強國狂吹空對空沖壓彈，結果到目前為止只出現在圖片上連模型都沒
這個套路似曾相識，對，就是超音速反艦彈
在雄3出來時，強國能拿出來的只有從俄國進口的日炙還有仿製的鷹擊91
鷹擊83被吹成末端超音速，鷹擊12吹到近幾年才出來
空對空沖壓應該也是吹好幾年直到曝光吧，只是不知道需要幾年{:31:}<br><br><br><br><br><div></div> 吹牛不用錢，有本是拿yj打漁船啊，打的到才叫好棒棒。{:31:} 不是威脅外星人嗎？
PLA不是快打到織女星系了嗎？ 貘良了 發表於 2016-11-25 11:32 AM static/image/common/back.gif
導引是次要問題，發現目標才是首要
只有奇葩國才把這當威嚇手段
俄國知道自己海空軍裝備性能不如美軍，因 ...
1+1當然=2
但是大家都希望1+1>2
難道你覺得F-22隱身很強所以永遠都只需要短程空空飛彈就好??? zaqwsxdsa 發表於 2016-11-25 08:31 PM static/image/common/back.gif
1+1當然=2
但是大家都希望1+1>2
自己立靶自己打
我有說F22只需要短程AAM?
遠距離攻擊能力(1)+匿蹤(1)，在遠距離優勢下是否隱形完全沒有影響，效果=0
所以是1+0，還是說你有甚麼獨到的見解能說明在這麼遠的距離隱形能取得更多優勢?...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div> 先打下一架美國P8A預警機給大家看吧<br><br><br><br><br><div></div>